But I'm not in the fucking mood for jokes. That's a thousand people spending $39.95 to look up my name because you mentioned it on a podcast. "Brian [censored] killed her," is what he typed. And he laughed and he said, "Yeah, I guess I was." I'm the one who has never come close to ever once being accused of anything like this. Thank you, sir ... change her name to to have a cool hippie name? She was actually very, very, very upset about it because she was being unjustly kicked out of her place from what I was hearing. It doesn't matter." What I was saying is we do know this much. I'm a photographer and I've lost all my computers and everything I own because I [crosstalk]. Catfish? I'm asking you if that sounds like a selfish thing to ask. Payne Lindsey: 00:51:22 Where should we check now? I'm not afraid of the fucking government, like cops and shit like that. John "Catfish": 00:09:22 I don't give a shit. John "Catfish": 00:25:13 Why did he not release it to you, then? Oh, he messaged me today. I'm not normally such a sounding of a fucking freaky person. Come in the morning I'd always be there Walking in his footsteps in the sweet Delta dawn Take me back to another morning, to a time so long ago When the sweet magnolia blossomed, cotton fields as white as snow Catfish John was a river hobo who lived and died by the river's bed Looking back I still remember I was proud to be his friend Mama said, "Don't go near that river Don't be hanging around old Catfish John." It's fine. Anyways, and that's to the best of my recollect, last time I saw her. But I know there's things called 10,000 Faces of Death and I don't watch them TV shows either. John "Catfish": 00:30:59 If I thought someone I knew and lived near or whatever said ... First of all, no one has anything on me. I'm pretty sure it was Katherine. Payne Lindsey: 00:27:01 That doesn't make any sense. You're the one that does this for a living. When I started talking with her friends that were coming by looking for her, they all said the same thing, which was, "She has to be at Catfish's." It didn't make any sense whatsoever and I myself never mentioned this once, and I'm clearly not in the business of sending or receiving money from him. Dready Brian? How much money do I want, stuff like that. John "Catfish": 00:55:55 I really don't feel it was my business to talk to him. It was like the T-ball or the kindergarten of exploring wifi networks. I'm trying to get out the door in a fucking emergency hurry 'cause I can see this daylight fading from me, and the truth is I'm just getting dressed and brushing my teeth and getting ready to go. I realize that didn't sound that intellectelligent, just 'cause you know exactly why. I'm probably way out in left field. So I'm a little bit amped up. x. Click to change • Log out. Payne Lindsey: 00:30:07 I can promise you that no one that works for me or with me has ever reached out to you but me. So let's close it up proper. John "Catfish": 00:09:01 You're in this for money. How could both of these things be true? 'Cause I sure as shit didn't say it and we know that. Awesome! So does that fact that I've been told by official channels not to release her name. Her name, excuse me, is Katherine. While no official suspects have been named by authorities in the disappearance of Kristal, one name repeatedly bubbled to the surface of Up and Vanished 's … Payne Lindsey: 00:21:46 I'm just confused a little bit. The killers always do this sort of shit. Meredith S: 00:59:08 Up and Vanished is an investigative podcast told weekly, produced for Tenderfoot TV by Payne Lindsey, Mike Rooney, and me, Meredith Stedman, with new episodes every Monday. John "Catfish": 00:10:30 No, not really at all. John "Catfish": 00:41:08 But okay, what would he have done with her? John "Catfish": 00:11:36 This person's lying to you for certain. Payne Lindsey: 00:13:52 On June 28, 2016, Kristal said that she was raped at your house. That was the week after my birthday. John "Catfish": 00:21:59 I didn't say that. I have about 50 people a day contacting me, claiming to be working for you. I have heard that so many times at me. Payne Lindsey: 00:35:50 Which one? And the truth is, it is not true. John "Catfish": 00:51:33 You find out who did it for sure. You can accuse people of a lot of things, but I want to know is, what has been said on that podcast that's got my friends so up in arms about this, figuratively speaking. John "Catfish": 00:41:46 No, see, you planned this call. At this point, basically, I'm starting to try to teach myself not to care what's going on with her. I'm not trying to be funny, sir, but I am saying that for real, this has ruined my life and now you are attacking me. John "Catfish": 00:15:02 I wasn't even there then. It was basically about how to get free wifi. Special thanks to the team at Cadence13. You know how when you over-password things and you can't be the one account to get your damn account so you can't prove you're either one kind of thing. It's true that I'm thinking there's not. Sir, you might think I'm an idiot, but you know I'm not this dumb. John "Catfish": 00:55:28 I have leaked his name to the local bureau already a long time ago. Payne Lindsey: 00:10:45 Yeah, yeah. John "Catfish": 00:15:56 Imagine someone you know and love coming up and putting that in your head in the middle of the night. I guarantee that. It's the last crime I would ever commit, pretty much. At this point, what I'm saying is, I'm literally considering some really fuck around and find out kind of fucking strength with it, because ... John "Catfish": 00:37:52 Well, I mean, when I was first accused of that stuff and told I'm facing 20 years in prison and all that stuff, I didn't want everyone saying, "But John wouldn't hurt a butterfly," or fly or whatever it was. Payne Lindsey: 00:38:32 'Cause you just don't have to, I guess. She said she knew who was there and she says that she is positive it was them and it was Catfish, Bryan, and a third guy who she can't identify, she doesn't know. Payne Lindsey: 00:12:46 Kristal's family asked me-. Sounds unlikely. However, I feel hes doing a piss poor job at that. 1903) Fish.Fish's father was American, of English ancestry, and his mother was Scots-Irish American. Like I'll take $35 million, that kind of thing. Meredith S: 01:00:03 If you're enjoying Up and Vanished, tell a friend, family member, or co-worker about it, and don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review on Apple Podcasts. John "Catfish": 00:17:37 Just you're lying about her telling people that I raped her and stuff like that. This episode is giving me anxiety. John "Catfish": 00:33:59 Yeah, that I'm definitely not gonna be going to court and saying. Your email is not updated before you complete this step! Do you realize how weird that would have looked? Even though Up and Vanished hasn't been updated in nearly a year, Lindsey told Romper that it is still very much on the table for a third season. You see what I mean? Payne Lindsey: 00:14:14 What happened that night? Do you think that if I did something harmful to her, I would be the one saying that? John "Catfish": 00:07:48 Excuse this. It makes sense as well. It's like this, but I hella care. Here's how you know I'm innocent. I said, "Hey listen. Why would I tell you something that I wouldn't tell any of my friends? Reisinger’s perplexing disappearance is the subject of the new season of the true crime podcast Up And Vanished. Payne Lindsey: 00:04:05 From Tenderfoot TV in Atlanta, this is Up and Vanished. I do not mean to offend you. John "Catfish": 00:42:10 I am missing four Mac Pros from my house. I must have skipped passed it! They make themselves known without letting people know its them. I can't ask you to drop this one, because I'm involved in it. I've seen things about him, natures and then fights he's tried at me, things like that. Meaning, "John, are you sure you didn't have something to do with it?" I mean, there was none of that at all. And so he's telling detectives this just before they put him to death. I can just read it. Payne Lindsey: 00:21:54 You said that you didn't know her very well, but she hung out with you and drank wine and smoked weed on your birthday? They have suspicions and they have some evidence. Payne Lindsey: 00:46:49 I mean, that guy is probably what happened to her. Sir, I barely knew her. Why is he talking to "4" or "6" attorneys if he's innocent? Payne Lindsey: 00:25:05 I talked to the CBI. It was a very small, very ... What would you call it? John "Catfish": 00:21:49 Well that's just 'cause it's none of your damn business. Payne Lindsey: 00:24:05 So I called the CBI again and I asked them point blank if Catfish could share this message, and the CBI agent working this case told me yes. Chris Halsne: 00:02:39 I think the most maniacal killers are that way. Turn your recorder off if you want, then. John "Catfish": 00:34:06 That's why the boys don't trust me to talk to you, that kind of thing. Let's prove your innocence right now. I've never met the guy. I got real bad ADD and anxiety and such. It's unimaginable to me. I weigh 140. John Keenan currently lives in Crestone, CO; in the past John has also lived in Raleigh NC. I'm more against that one than I am the other one. Payne Lindsey: 00:17:46 I never said that. She was a bit crazy, like all of them people say are, you know? I'm not gonna say the words. Payne Lindsey: 00:11:22 Someone told me a story about seeing you, some sort of gold, blue van or something, and what looked like a body rolled up and a shovel in the pouring rain? Payne Lindsey: 00:42:06 Did you say that someone stole your computers and that's why you can't give me the message? John "Catfish": 00:22:14 You want some extorsion? She was out of money or something? John "Catfish": 00:14:00 She did not say this. Creepy stuff. You see that happening with a carpet wrapped up in it? There's no firsthand anything as far as I know. Payne Lindsey: 00:23:20 Perhaps one of the biggest allegations we've heard thus far, besides Kristal saying that she was drugged and raped at Catfish's house, is Catfish himself claiming that Dready Brian confessed to killing her on Facebook Messenger. Actually Nitty Gritty Dirt Band made it famous. The cold case was the largest case file in the Georgia Bureau of Investigation’s history, with no arrests in 11 years. Didn't help me one bit, that's for sure. Like a book. If you don't, then frankly don't, because for the past couple years, I've been wanting them to make me force myself to prove my innocence on this. Payne Lindsey: 00:18:09 My first call with Catfish was interesting to say the least, but not exactly productive. So give me this space before I say some cruel stuff, please. Payne Lindsey: 00:14:47 And the landlord, and then Eli. It's fuzzy to her because of the way that they drugged her. John "Catfish": 00:54:54 Dready Brian, I will have him meet me at a train station if you find that kid. This is Ara, Kristal's landlord. Not you personally. So I reached back out to Catfish to share the great news. Payne Lindsey: 00:28:50 How soon can you get the file? Or do you think he's lying, too? Payne Lindsey: 00:46:53 Do you think it was Brian? When they hear what that person has to say, right away they see red flags. I've never accused you of anything. John "Catfish": 00:52:25 I have obviously every ability to watch the podcast or something, and have yet to see what's being said about me is not something a guilty person would do. I don't know every way a person can leave the earth, they could die or whatever. Payne Lindsey: 00:10:28 So you're pretty good with computers, right? Payne Lindsey: 00:55:24 I mean, I think the Big Cat guy should be questioned, don't you? Payne Lindsey: 00:46:17 Wasn't she last seen at your house, though? [censored] went and picked Kristal up from your house in the middle of the night. John "Catfish": 00:31:49 But this is just a disrespect to me and I'm not gonna take it to the level of, "We just want justice for her daughter," and stuff. Spreading the Love Music via photographs and laughs of sacred traditions and do not mentions Brian is a skinny junkie that's done a bunch of pushups from being in jail for whole six month stints here and there. Who on earth is Big Cat? Me. Catfish's name actually comes up in the 2016 police report after Kristal was reported missing by her landlord on July 30, as a deputy had heard through social media that he was one of … John "Catfish": 00:07:41 Fuck no. Did she say she was gonna go somewhere or something? I keep hoping that it's like all the other times she'd been missing. , From that Facebook link above I think I found his Instagram ‍♀️ https://instagram.com/zatcathatfish?utm_source=ig_profile_share&igshid=aghy2c88uwaa, https://www.instagram.com/p/nS1NJ-va2A/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=rqehwklmmski the comments ‍♀️. That's amazing. Payne Lindsey: 00:19:06 And here's what the Crestone boyfriend told me. I came here for the same thing. And all these people were my friends and my family, I thought. Let's go through what Kristal's friends have told me about this incident. John said that he fell asleep as she was leaving. I do not want to spend the rest of my year in court any more than I want to spend the rest of my year in jail. You are an official adversary at this point. I can't answer these questions right now. That is a terrible thing to wake up to, and that's what's happened to me the past three years in a row. I had no involvement with her. And there's only six of them in the entire Census Bureau data that was available to me at the time I looked at it. You see what I'm saying there? Payne Lindsey: 00:48:09 I mean, Brian should pay for it then, you know? Nowhere ever have I heard this name, and it's certainly not in the police report. Payne Lindsey: 00:10:36 Didn't you give Kristal a $10 computer book? John "Catfish": 00:12:02 Well, unless she's all alone and left all on her own, obviously that's not true. John "Catfish": 00:26:51 Katherine Weisenberg. I haven't even tried to convince you really of my non-involvement in this situation-. She's a Rainbow sister. I know this for a fact. 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